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For my painting I will be drawing a girl looking into a mirror and from behind we will see that she is dressed in rags. The image of her in the mirror will be of a Disney princess character. The significance of the two different images will be to show that what she chooses to see is different from her reality. Disney movies often depict the character escaping their reality in order to chase a dream.

For my painting I will be drawing a girl looking into a mirror and from behind we will see that she is dressed in rags. The image of her in the mirror will be of a Disney princess character. The significance of the two different images will be to show that what she chooses to see is different from her reality. Disney movies often depict the character escaping their reality in order to chase a dream.

(via feministdisney)

feministdisney: nuderefsarebest: protowilson: catbountry: steam-powered-jetskis: riningear: pocketthepirate: bluandorange: catbountry: steam-powered-jetskis: jhenne-bean: fowlie: catbountry: steam-powered-jetskis: Oh for fuck’s sake it’s called stylizing! “You know what’s bigger than my body? My head!!” Cartoons are MEANT to be stylized. It means it exaggerates shapes. If you want realistic proportions, why don’t you watch only live action films? Man I am fuckin’ so sick of people bitching about stylization. Sometimes I think people bitching about how they find this sort of thing offensive in cartoons actually hate cartoons. God thank you.   If your number one complaint about Disney is that their cartoon proportions are too unrealistic, then please just go find something better to complain about and blame for all of societies ill wills.  Like how photos of real woman are air bushed to look perfict.   IKR? I mean, golly gee! There certainly cant be any correlation between the fact that real women are airbrushed to be perfect and the above-posted stylized body type that is more or less blanket-represented in our media, which is a major agent of socialization and an extremely formative influence in terms of ideals and body image! THAT WOULD JUST BE WACKY, AMIRITE? I mean, imagine applying critical thinking to the media? Like…like media studies or something! That shit cray!!!(And again, no, I love cartoons.) (I just lack that willful ignorance thing I keep hearing so much about.) (Really though, I don’t get the “I LOVE CARTOONS!!! Guys stop biiitchiiiinnnnng it’s just a cartoon!” attitude. Is it not more insulting to, say, trivialize the importance of the medium?) LOL I’m studying to work in animation, do you honestly think I’d be one to trivialize it? I’m only a student, but so far I can tell you that when designing a character, NOBODY is wondering if their head should be bigger than their waist. We’re really not looking for body image or anything related to reality, just… summing up a human being’s shape, and exaggerating some parts for different purposes. Eyes for emotion, thin fingers for grace, and general body shape so that the character’s silhouette is immediately identifiable and easy to tell apart from the other characters, while keeping a similar style. If you look at real people, they’re gonna be different in shape, but never as different as cartoon characters. Nobody’s as tall as Jafar, as muscular as the Genie, as ball-shaped as the Sultan… But nobody talks about that, because this isn’t about women’s body image. I’m definitely not saying “chill out it’s JUST a cartoon”, I’m saying that the people who work for animated films know very well that this waist size isn’t possible. But to them, her waist is that small for the same reason her eyes are that big, her hair is so fluffy, etc. It’s called STYLIZING. It’s not about women needing to have tiny waists, it’s about the character’s style. No one’s talking about how your mouth should be on your chin like in As Told By Ginger. Yes thank you JESUS. Yeah, only it stops being stylization when you simply aren’t allowed to have a female protagonist with a waist wider than one tit.  Then it starts being something else entirely. Then it becomes a self-preserved narrative that we’re expected to follow that continues, indefinitely, to limit the body types we are allowed to view as desirable, heroic, or even good. Remember Princess and the Frog? How about Tiana’s bestie? Charlotte? Did you know people actually gave her flack for being too heavy? Look at the fucking waist and try to tell me stylization is all that’s at play here.  big waists are whutevaaaaaahhhhhhh This isn’t my number one complaint about Disney (though it’s up there because I have very few) but holy fuck people are pushing off bad anatomy as stylization. Do you know what kinds of people do this? 12-year-olds who are learning to draw by using a how-to-draw and by watching bad anime and who rabidly defend their shitty art by non-stop saying “Oh but this is how the anime has it and it’s good!”  Stylization is an almost-valid excuse to make a waist smaller, but not to, oh, throw off all the proportions. I mean, just from looking at this picture, I can tell that her arms are too long, they’re detached from her body, her head is awkwardly positioned, and she’s going to fall the fuck over and splat into the streets of Agrabah in about t-minus three seconds no matter which way she sways. And, by the way, she barely has room for a spine, forget a stomach.  As ~perfect~ as Disney may seem, it always looks ridiculous to defend bad proportions as stylizing art when we’re talking about animation or anything even remotely realistic.  OKAY OKAY you won the award for the STUPIDEST reply in this debate. You have compared Disney artists, who spend most of their lives learning human and animal anatomy to draw perfect realistic art, and studying the way bodies move realistically, and THEN learned how to alter and exaggerate everything so that a cartoon will look appealing to children; with 13-year-old wannabe artists who start by copying off anime and manga. Art teachers don’t only condone copying anime; ANY stylized art that you’re trying to copy is going to cripple your drawing abilities. A person who learns to draw by copying Disney’s style is also taking a bad start. Saying the “the anatomy is wrong” is going to be true for anything that isn’t realistic. Look at any Disney character, like someone else said, even male character’s heads are larger than their waist. Try to find me an animated character with realistic proportions. Go ahead, I’m waiting. …Done? THERE AREN’T ANY. The only way of stylizing something is to change the real proportions of a body. To create contrast between different body parts. Her hips and chest are wide, that is contrasted with a small waist. She wears wide pants, that is contrasted with small feet. Etc, etc. The issue here is that it’s supposed to be artists who use reality to create cartoons, and now everyone’s taking it the wrong way: cartoons are now an example for reality. That doesn’t make any sense! An old woman with gnarly fingers and missing teeth is not scary because Disney told you so, the Disney character is scary because that’s what most children will find scary. Disney women are like that because that’s what most people consider attractive. Cartoons are based on reality, not the other way around. I understand your point of view that the fact that this is the “norm” for women to look like this is wrong, etc… Yes, I understand. I agree that most of the Disney princesses look very similar. That argument is way more logical than “her proportions are off” because… every animated character’s proportions are off. It’s called stylizing. The issue is not about her waist being too small, but about all “attractive” women to be drawn the same way. I’m done with this debate, Tumblr you’re making me go crazy. Why is this even a debate you fucking fucktards. You can tell the people who have NO understanding of animation as art… they’re the ones talking bollocks.  Ugh, you guys… ‘stylization’ is no excuse for proportions that are so weird.  Look at those ridiculously oversized hands on almost everyone.  Except for Spy - clearly his designer hates the French and thinks they’re all a bunch of malnourished reed-thin weenies.  Jesus, Heavy’s built like a fucking gorilla, how does he stand on those teeny tiny legs?  And, wtf is up with Pyro’s head?  Nobody’s head is that small, that is completely unrealistic.  Look at how exaggerated their features are, Valve staff clearly know nothing about human anatomy.  What a bunch of hacks. …so in  other words you just figured out that men are often portrayed with a diverse range of shapes and sizes, while women are almost always portrayed as having tiny waists (with yes, a handful of exceptions like Lilo)… and you don’t… see how this completely defeats whatever argument you think you have??

feministdisney:

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Oh for fuck’s sake it’s called stylizing!

“You know what’s bigger than my body? My head!!”

Cartoons are MEANT to be stylized. It means it exaggerates shapes. If you want realistic proportions, why don’t you watch only live action films?

Man I am fuckin’ so sick of people bitching about stylization.

Sometimes I think people bitching about how they find this sort of thing offensive in cartoons actually hate cartoons.

God thank you.  

If your number one complaint about Disney is that their cartoon proportions are too unrealistic, then please just go find something better to complain about and blame for all of societies ill wills.  Like how photos of real woman are air bushed to look perfict.  

IKR?

I mean, golly gee!

There certainly cant be any correlation between the fact that real women are airbrushed to be perfect and the above-posted stylized body type that is more or less blanket-represented in our media, which is a major agent of socialization and an extremely formative influence in terms of ideals and body image!

THAT WOULD JUST BE WACKY, AMIRITE?

I mean, imagine applying critical thinking to the media? Like…like media studies or something! That shit cray!!!

(And again, no, I love cartoons.)

(I just lack that willful ignorance thing I keep hearing so much about.)

(Really though, I don’t get the “I LOVE CARTOONS!!! Guys stop biiitchiiiinnnnng it’s just a cartoon!” attitude. Is it not more insulting to, say, trivialize the importance of the medium?)

LOL I’m studying to work in animation, do you honestly think I’d be one to trivialize it?

I’m only a student, but so far I can tell you that when designing a character, NOBODY is wondering if their head should be bigger than their waist. We’re really not looking for body image or anything related to reality, just… summing up a human being’s shape, and exaggerating some parts for different purposes. Eyes for emotion, thin fingers for grace, and general body shape so that the character’s silhouette is immediately identifiable and easy to tell apart from the other characters, while keeping a similar style. If you look at real people, they’re gonna be different in shape, but never as different as cartoon characters. Nobody’s as tall as Jafar, as muscular as the Genie, as ball-shaped as the Sultan… But nobody talks about that, because this isn’t about women’s body image.

I’m definitely not saying “chill out it’s JUST a cartoon”, I’m saying that the people who work for animated films know very well that this waist size isn’t possible. But to them, her waist is that small for the same reason her eyes are that big, her hair is so fluffy, etc. It’s called STYLIZING. It’s not about women needing to have tiny waists, it’s about the character’s style. No one’s talking about how your mouth should be on your chin like in As Told By Ginger.

Yes thank you JESUS.

Yeah, only it stops being stylization when you simply aren’t allowed to have a female protagonist with a waist wider than one tit. 

Then it starts being something else entirely. Then it becomes a self-preserved narrative that we’re expected to follow that continues, indefinitely, to limit the body types we are allowed to view as desirable, heroic, or even good.

Remember Princess and the Frog? How about Tiana’s bestie? Charlotte? Did you know people actually gave her flack for being too heavy?

Look at the fucking waist and try to tell me stylization is all that’s at play here. 

big waists are whutevaaaaaahhhhhhh

This isn’t my number one complaint about Disney (though it’s up there because I have very few) but holy fuck people are pushing off bad anatomy as stylization. Do you know what kinds of people do this? 12-year-olds who are learning to draw by using a how-to-draw and by watching bad anime and who rabidly defend their shitty art by non-stop saying “Oh but this is how the anime has it and it’s good!” 

Stylization is an almost-valid excuse to make a waist smaller, but not to, oh, throw off all the proportions. I mean, just from looking at this picture, I can tell that her arms are too long, they’re detached from her body, her head is awkwardly positioned, and she’s going to fall the fuck over and splat into the streets of Agrabah in about t-minus three seconds no matter which way she sways. And, by the way, she barely has room for a spine, forget a stomach. 

As ~perfect~ as Disney may seem, it always looks ridiculous to defend bad proportions as stylizing art when we’re talking about animation or anything even remotely realistic. 

OKAY OKAY you won the award for the STUPIDEST reply in this debate. You have compared Disney artists, who spend most of their lives learning human and animal anatomy to draw perfect realistic art, and studying the way bodies move realistically, and THEN learned how to alter and exaggerate everything so that a cartoon will look appealing to children; with 13-year-old wannabe artists who start by copying off anime and manga. Art teachers don’t only condone copying anime; ANY stylized art that you’re trying to copy is going to cripple your drawing abilities. A person who learns to draw by copying Disney’s style is also taking a bad start. Saying the “the anatomy is wrong” is going to be true for anything that isn’t realistic.

Look at any Disney character, like someone else said, even male character’s heads are larger than their waist. Try to find me an animated character with realistic proportions. Go ahead, I’m waiting. …Done? THERE AREN’T ANY. The only way of stylizing something is to change the real proportions of a body. To create contrast between different body parts. Her hips and chest are wide, that is contrasted with a small waist. She wears wide pants, that is contrasted with small feet. Etc, etc.

The issue here is that it’s supposed to be artists who use reality to create cartoons, and now everyone’s taking it the wrong way: cartoons are now an example for reality. That doesn’t make any sense! An old woman with gnarly fingers and missing teeth is not scary because Disney told you so, the Disney character is scary because that’s what most children will find scary. Disney women are like that because that’s what most people consider attractive. Cartoons are based on reality, not the other way around.

I understand your point of view that the fact that this is the “norm” for women to look like this is wrong, etc… Yes, I understand. I agree that most of the Disney princesses look very similar. That argument is way more logical than “her proportions are off” because… every animated character’s proportions are off. It’s called stylizing. The issue is not about her waist being too small, but about all “attractive” women to be drawn the same way.

I’m done with this debate, Tumblr you’re making me go crazy.

Why is this even a debate you fucking fucktards.

You can tell the people who have NO understanding of animation as art… they’re the ones talking bollocks. 

Ugh, you guys… ‘stylization’ is no excuse for proportions that are so weird.  Look at those ridiculously oversized hands on almost everyone.  Except for Spy - clearly his designer hates the French and thinks they’re all a bunch of malnourished reed-thin weenies.  Jesus, Heavy’s built like a fucking gorilla, how does he stand on those teeny tiny legs?  And, wtf is up with Pyro’s head?  Nobody’s head is that small, that is completely unrealistic.  Look at how exaggerated their features are, Valve staff clearly know nothing about human anatomy.  What a bunch of hacks.

…so in  other words you just figured out that men are often portrayed with a diverse range of shapes and sizes, while women are almost always portrayed as having tiny waists (with yes, a handful of exceptions like Lilo)… and you don’t… see how this completely defeats whatever argument you think you have??

As part of my critical artefact I wanted to portray the difference between reality and imagination. Typically in Disney films, women are portrayed as princesses and this gives young girls from a very young age n idea and belief as to what beauty is. Many young girls also take on this aspiration that they have a particular role to play in society. And this is normally that they must be ‘pretty’ and reliant on a prince charming in order for them to be of any significance. I have chosen to paint using oil paints as I feel this would be a great medium to showcase my artefact.

feministdisney:

tealeavesla:

Disney Princesses have become a popular subject for photographers who want to reveal the ugly horrors of our society, specifically consumer-driven, Disneyfied pop culture. Re-imagining the squeaky clean, inherently sexist Disney princesses and putting them in grotesque or morbid portraits seems to be a photography trend that isn’t losing steam anytime soon.

Parisian photographer Thomas Czarnecki released a series called “From Enchantment to Down”, depicting the princesses as captured, passed out or just down on their luck.

An artist in Belgium named Bruno Vilela has a similar series, Dead Princesses, that shows princesses after a homicidal demise.

Dina Goldstein’s “Fallen Princesses” series was a huge hit on the Internet by giving the princesses problems faced by the modern female (watching your weight, plastic surgery pressures, loneliness, etc). 

The Literacy Foundation used photos of sickly, hospital-ridden fairytale heroes to promote reading.

Miwa Yanagi’s “Fairytales” are easily the creepiest. The ghoulish black and white photos are a macabre throwback to the original Grimm fairytales.

I don’t particularly like all the photos chosen for the above photoset, but I like the writing about some of the specific concepts and want to look through more when I have time (I definitely like the look of Miwa Yanagi, and also Dina Goldstein’s stuff.)

(Source: tealeavesla)

feministdisney: tw: offensive language below racism etc sn0zz-berries: pajamaswag: warmlittlediamondisafeminist: dumbthingswhitepplsay: raiseyourwandwithpride: super-eklectic1: danceswithfaeriesunderthemoon: feministdisney: “It’s sad that Disney has the opportunity to educate so many people and yet many of their movies, unintentionally perhaps, serve as a platform to reinforce negative stereotypes about differnet cultural groups,” Jafar lamented, while inwardly wondering whether, perhaps, a certain gold lamp he had heard about could help him solve this problem… [for more on this, read the feminist review of Aladdin the movie here] THIS. ALL. OF. THIS. THANK YOU for making this post. you know what i never noticed that!!! oh snap!! did any arabs do the voices because i know that aladdin was voiced by a white dude Y’know, I really don’t see reasoning behind pointing stuff like this out. Why can’t people just sit back and enjoy Disney rather than accuse them of doing shit like this? yeah i mean why bother to accuse racists of racism that’s almost like accusing sexists of sexism or criminals of crimes i mean why would we DO that when we can just ENJOY the erasure and hurt also the sky is green and water is yellow and clouds are made of cotton candy Fuckin’ A+ commentary ^ ONLY FIRST WORLD PEOPLE HAVE THE LUXURY OF EVEN GIVING A FUCK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING IS “RACIST” IN A FUCKING ANIMATED MOTION PICTURE YOU’RE ALL A BUNCH OF WHINY LITTLE GIRLS P.S. NIGGER, SPIC, WETBACK, JAP, GOOK, HONKEY, SAND NIGGER, SAND MONKEY, SLANT-EYES, CHINK, BEANER, COTTON-PICKER, COOLIE, COON, KYKE, DYKE, FAG, QUEER, KRAUT, NIGLET, NIGRA, PORCH MONKEY, RAGHEAD, REDSKIN, TOWEL HEAD, SPOOK, YID AND ZIPPERHEAD ARE YOU OFFENDED ENOUGH NOW? OH NO JAFAR LOOKS LIKE A SAND NIGGER, OH MY GOD THE WHOLE WORLD IS WRONG AND FUCKED UP AND AMERICA IS A HORRIBLE PLACE BECAUSE IN A CARTOON THE VILLIAN IS THE SAME RACE AS EVERYONE ELSE IN THE MOVIE AND THE GENERAL AREA IN WHICH THE MOVIE TAKES PLACE OH MY GOD NO THE TRAVESTY As we wage war on the actual area the movie took place in. FEMINISTDISNEY you KNOW she’s a raging bull-dyke THANK YOU. THIS THIS THIS THIS. I’m sick of everyone getting so butt hurt about shit like this. lol @ all the above commentary.   As you know, don’t have a lot of time today, but if anyone wants to address the above points… ;)  they’re pretty easily addressable so I’ll assign this as homework for anyone interested in trying their hand!   But lol at talking about oppressions being a first world problem, because people in other parts of the world never talk about these things ever, in all of the above commentator’s huge experience with being anywhere else, oh wait they’ve probably never left their home state and they’re using oppression as an excuse to oppress.   No one’s ever tried that before!  #originality

feministdisney:

tw: offensive language below racism etc

sn0zz-berries:

pajamaswag:

warmlittlediamondisafeminist:

dumbthingswhitepplsay:

raiseyourwandwithpride:

super-eklectic1:

danceswithfaeriesunderthemoon:

feministdisney:

“It’s sad that Disney has the opportunity to educate so many people and yet many of their movies, unintentionally perhaps, serve as a platform to reinforce negative stereotypes about differnet cultural groups,” Jafar lamented, while inwardly wondering whether, perhaps, a certain gold lamp he had heard about could help him solve this problem…

[for more on this, read the feminist review of Aladdin the movie here]

THIS.

ALL. OF. THIS.

THANK YOU for making this post.

you know what i never noticed that!!! oh snap!!

did any arabs do the voices because i know that aladdin was voiced by a white dude

Y’know, I really don’t see reasoning behind pointing stuff like this out. Why can’t people just sit back and enjoy Disney rather than accuse them of doing shit like this?

yeah i mean why bother to accuse racists of racism

that’s almost like accusing sexists of sexism

or criminals of crimes

i mean why would we DO that when we can just ENJOY the erasure and hurt

also the sky is green and water is yellow and clouds are made of cotton candy

Fuckin’ A+ commentary ^

ONLY FIRST WORLD PEOPLE HAVE THE LUXURY OF EVEN GIVING A FUCK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING IS “RACIST” IN A FUCKING ANIMATED MOTION PICTURE

YOU’RE ALL A BUNCH OF WHINY LITTLE GIRLS

P.S.

NIGGER, SPIC, WETBACK, JAP, GOOK, HONKEY, SAND NIGGER, SAND MONKEY, SLANT-EYES, CHINK, BEANER, COTTON-PICKER, COOLIE, COON, KYKE, DYKE, FAG, QUEER, KRAUT, NIGLET, NIGRA, PORCH MONKEY, RAGHEAD, REDSKIN, TOWEL HEAD, SPOOK, YID

AND ZIPPERHEAD

ARE YOU OFFENDED ENOUGH NOW?

OH NO JAFAR LOOKS LIKE A SAND NIGGER, OH MY GOD THE WHOLE WORLD IS WRONG AND FUCKED UP AND AMERICA IS A HORRIBLE PLACE BECAUSE IN A CARTOON THE VILLIAN IS THE SAME RACE AS EVERYONE ELSE IN THE MOVIE AND THE GENERAL AREA IN WHICH THE MOVIE TAKES PLACE

OH MY GOD NO THE TRAVESTY

As we wage war on the actual area the movie took place in.

FEMINISTDISNEY

you KNOW she’s a raging bull-dyke

THANK YOU. THIS THIS THIS THIS. I’m sick of everyone getting so butt hurt about shit like this.

lol @ all the above commentary.   As you know, don’t have a lot of time today, but if anyone wants to address the above points… ;)  they’re pretty easily addressable so I’ll assign this as homework for anyone interested in trying their hand!   But lol at talking about oppressions being a first world problem, because people in other parts of the world never talk about these things ever, in all of the above commentator’s huge experience with being anywhere else, oh wait they’ve probably never left their home state and they’re using oppression as an excuse to oppress.   No one’s ever tried that before!  #originality